Comments on: Anglicans to swim the Tiber in droves?

By: Jay3gsm

Jay3gsm — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:50:58 +0000

Piperspop, I think your point is valid. There are enough people in the Catholic Church already who don’t fully live the teachings of the Church. So, what we don’t need is people joining the Church who will bring with them their half acceptances of Church teaching. We need more people true to the Faith, not more people who want the Faith the way it suits them.

We should all pray that every person, Anglican or otherwise, who is not a full member of the Church finds their way here and accepts fully everything the Church teaches

By: ukok

ukok — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:42:45 +0000

piperspop, i no more codone cafeteria Catholicism than i do anglicans converting to Catholicism without fully accepting the teachings of the Catholic Church.

I’m a UK citizen, not U.S so actually, no i don’t think we have any where near the problems with Catholic liberalism that you do.

‘Holier than thou Horse’?

Get a grip. This isn’t about being prideful.

The Code of Canon Law states:

Can. 843 §1. Sacred ministers cannot deny the sacraments to those who seek them at appropriate times, are properly disposed, and are not prohibited by law from receiving them.

§2. Pastors of souls and other members of the Christian faithful, according to their respective ecclesiastical function, have the duty to take care that those who seek the sacraments are prepared to receive them by proper evangelization and catechetical instruction, attentive to the norms issued by competent authority.

By: piperspop

piperspop — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:37:39 +0000

Before you all get upset about whether or not Anglicans will accept all Roman teachings, maybe you should be more concerned about whether Roman Catholics do!
Divorce and remarriage, contraception, regular church attendance, etc, etc, etc ad infinitum. Does the term “cafeteria catholic” ring a bell with any of you?
Have you looked at “catholic” US Senators and Representatives for instances. Get off the Holier than thou horse.

By: Bob Catholic

Bob Catholic — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:46:14 +0000

Just two small points, as an ex-Anglican clergyperson:
1) Rejoice in the Truth found, not the heresy left behind!!!
2) Rumors about “mass Anglican conversion” have surfaced before every major decision within the Anglican Communion. In 1992 in Australia, hundreds of Anglicans were going to “swim the Tiber” after the vote to ordain women. Yet no more than a hand full did!!!! Some went into the Continuum, some disappeared, but most just sat back down and exclaimed, “Just one more thing and I’m leaving”! Anglicanism is as much a cultural movement as it is a religious one. Some people just cannot stop being culturally Anglican.
3) (Okay more than a couple) Anglicanism is not as united as some think. It is structurally autonomous. For example, in Australia every Diocese is completely independent. Some Romans (no disrespect intended) make the Archbishop of Canterbury the Anglican Pope. That just is not true. The Archbishop of Canterbury and Lambeth (and, in Australia, General Synod) have no authority anywhere!!!

By: ukok

ukok — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:46:42 +0000

Fr P and Mimi nailed it…..

No one should become a member of one Faith in order to leave another. As simple as that sounds, that is a pretty comprehensive fact.

By: Mimi

Mimi — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:17:34 +0000

Orthodox converts are cautioned to be converting *to* Orthodoxy and not *from* another denomination, I totally understand.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:05:19 +0000

I appreciate your sentiments, Debbie, but I don’t agree.

I too was an Anglican, and a “High Church” one. As such I truly thought that Anglicanism was catholic in its nature. I finally realised it was wrong and that, to use a metaphor, the ship I thought I was on was actually docked down at the Tiber.

I think many Anglicans are going through the same thing.

By: Rosemary

Rosemary — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:50:22 +0000

Still, those who come in for the wrong reasons may find the truth after they arrive. God may be using a roundabout path.

By: Jay3gsm

Jay3gsm — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:58:12 +0000

I have had similar thoughts about these stories concerning a mass exodus from the Anglican church into the Catholic Church. I’m more than happy for lost souls to find their way back to the Church, but the motives must surely be sound. Will the Anglicans have a belief in the real presence? Will they accept the Church’s teaching on contraception? Those who have divorced and re-married are going to have some difficult issues to face.

It is a concern that those looking to move into the Church don’t fully accept all that the Church teaches. If they did, they would be Catholic already, no?

I don’t fully understand the situation, all we can do is pray for the right outcome, for all.

By: Suzanne

Suzanne — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:56:44 +0000

Hi, Deb…I don’t even know how to get back on my old Facebook thing I started! I just wanted you to know that as it said you left me a message on the funwall. Well, thanks…I just don’t go on there at all as I can hardly keep up with what is on these blogs..ha! Suz